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welcome everyone to somewhere in the

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skies as always i am your host ryan

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sprague and today we have with us yet

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again the head science writer at the

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debrief.org so you know what that means

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we're going to be talking all about

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everything in between so let's not waste

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any time we're gonna break down a ton of

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his new exciting articles over at the

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debrief so with us again is christopher

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of the debrief welcome back my man ryan

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thanks for having me on my good man hey

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anytime you send me that message that

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says i'm doing the hot guy show i need

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another hot guy to join me i always tell

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you i'm there for you so uh we can we

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can give the fans what they always

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really want which is just you and i sit

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here looking good together our mugs i

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knew it and we could say anything

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doesn't matter but no we're gonna say

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some uh we're gonna talk about some

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really cool stuff you know um we've got

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a ton of stuff going on in the world of

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um emerging tech and oh yeah and space

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exploration um so i kind of would love

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to just hop in with one of your most

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recent stories and that was this one uh

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exploring venus in a manta ray inspired

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spacecraft so i'm not going to even try

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to summarize this you are the man of the

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hour you're the one who wrote about this

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so why don't you tell us about this

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first one if you don't mind what is this

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craft that they're hoping to get over uh

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over to our neighbor venus

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so this is really really cool piece of

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technology ryan basically what happened

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is nasa the nasa institute for advanced

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concepts niacc

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announced a round of about 13 grants so

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this is something they're actually

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putting money into

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some are for them are for different

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this grant is to explore building and

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designing exactly what you said it looks

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like a triangle like a manta ray

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a manta ray so imagine this you're

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manta ray swimming now it's not

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that's exactly what they're using this

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that's what these grants do is they fund

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phosphine gas or the the signs of

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that way here on earth that would be

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that you could have life

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go there like i said like balloons that

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balloon you just gotta ride where the

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these manta ray craft are not that they

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can maneuver through those clouds

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rendering the same way a manta ray

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a little bit of air in it so that's

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what's happening with this craft they

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manipulate it to go lower in the

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go up higher in the atmosphere so it has

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sensors and stuff really a cutting-edge

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concept that nasa feels interested

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so cool man just think if there is some

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sort of intelligent life on venus we're

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now going to be the ufos they're going

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to be reporting these manta ray-shaped

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craft to their uh local news we saw a

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like moving like an actual creature yeah

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yeah a very cool concept and like i said

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i mentioned in that article that there

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uh and nasa has some for the end of this

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decade uh called davinci plus and

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veritas they're working on there's a

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next year called the venus life finder

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missions and it's really designed to

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kind of drop a little parachute craft

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love it absolutely love it well hey

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let's uh let's move from venus to mars

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this was another story that went viral

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maybe a week or so ago as we're

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recording this and this was the story

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about uh perseverance rover it spotted

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theories going and um unfortunately

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doing your due diligence as the head

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set us straight and tell us what it

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really was so why don't you tell us a

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little about this story if you don't

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mind chris yeah sure uh there's a i

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ufo researcher on instagram that kind of

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know like dating back to the face on

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mars and the pyramids on mars in the

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cydonia region that there's this kind of

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the cameras from time to time

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picking up things on mars that at least

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at first glance look like there's

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something other than a natural formation

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so we've seen that a ton over the years

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barra you know they make a living

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writing books about this stuff

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here we had a picture that when you look

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at that picture there's no doubt like

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that's a thing right like that's

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definitely not a rock and a little

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farther down in that article yeah you're

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zooming in i have a close-up on it a

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little farther down in the article

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but yeah this created a stir on the

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internet i know when i first saw it on

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twitter i was like oh that's a thing and

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then my first thought was it's probably

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one of our things and that was the

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ultimate conclusion of this researcher

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and that was what i found when i looked

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into it was

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uh and and it was there to like protect

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another bit

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and it was something that it dumped back

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in like july

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and so this is just a picture of

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you know unfortunately us going to

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another planet and doing what we do here

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which is

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leaving garbage on the side of the road

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right so

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no signatures baby

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oh yeah and you know i'll tell you ryan

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that one thing i thought was cool as

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they mentioned in the article is you

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know maybe 100 years from now or a

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thousand years from now

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these could be like national parks on

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mars or national parks on the moon these

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areas where we leave these little bits

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of human technology there may be a

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national park built around the whole

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perseverance area or around the spirit

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and opportunity areas or the curiosity

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rover because they're these little spots

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on the planet we think of them in these

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big areas but the the rover's only you

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know skirting a couple of miles

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of area there yeah they're these like

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historical zones with stuff there and

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that drill bit will probably be studied

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by students long after you and i are

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gone they're like oh here was the thing

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that you know was left behind and

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created a controversial photo so it was

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a neat picture and yeah my first thought

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was okay we really got something here

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this isn't the uh this isn't a rock

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formation

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yeah yep and the conspiracy theories

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flew i love it i love it well i'm glad

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we have an answer yeah yeah we'll see

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what uh we'll see what civilization

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builds up around it you know

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yeah right exactly

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the coke bottle and the gods must be

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crazy right

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exactly one piece of technology left

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behind

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yep well hey mars is sort of dusty

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terrain it reminds me a lot of uh a

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planet from our mutual favorite favorite

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universe and that is the star wars

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universe oh yeah so you know what comes

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next we have to talk about your your

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next article here tatooine like

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exoplanet confirmed we have an actual

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planet now where we could say luke

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skywalker is from so tell us about this

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one if you don't mind so i wrote about

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this first last year and then this

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latest article is like you said it's

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confirming it's there keep in mind when

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we find exoplanets whether it's the

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the test the transiting exoplanet survey

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satellite or the kepler missions or even

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with hubble when we find them uh it's

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typically just we're going through light

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spectra data and we're saying okay

347
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something moved in front of the planet

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or we're going on gravitational data and

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something caused the planet to wobble so

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this these uh

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even though we've confirmed maybe 5 000

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of these exoplanet there are thousands

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out there that we detected that signal

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said we think one's there but we're not

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quite sure and this was one of those

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this was a planet that last year we

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found and like you said the reason it's

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so cool

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is because it's a part of a binary star

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system so when if you were on this

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planet and you were to look up into the

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sky at the right time you would see what

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luke skywalker is saying in that picture

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right there you're seeing two

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two stars in the sky are two suns

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however from a search for life

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standpoint this is actually even more

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exciting and this the reason why is

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when you go through the cosmos

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binary star systems are the most common

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they're about half of the star systems

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maybe a hair over at least in the milky

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way galaxy so these binary star systems

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are everywhere

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and

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finding planets in them we found a few

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in other binary systems like this

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and they're almost always in the

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habitable zone of the two planets

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so

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every time we find a binary star system

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and with a planet or multiple planet

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candidates like this one in it

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that's a brand new exciting

385
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high quality place to look for life it

386
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may even be the case

387
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as we find signs of life assuming we do

388
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around other planets because of the

389
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prevalence of this type and because of

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their favoring having planets in the

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habitable zone

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it may be more common to look up in the

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sky on your home planet and see two sons

394
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then it is where we look up and see what

395
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may that just may be the more common

396
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scenario

397
00:16:06,629 --> 00:16:03,920
that's so cool i know i i dream of that

398
00:16:09,749 --> 00:16:06,639
day i can uh i can look over a mountain

399
00:16:12,949 --> 00:16:09,759
like luke there and just see two suns or

400
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or two moons not an iconic shot i seem

401
00:16:17,430 --> 00:16:14,320
to remember

402
00:16:19,590 --> 00:16:17,440
reading or hearing that uh it was like a

403
00:16:22,069 --> 00:16:19,600
mistake and it was like an effect of the

404
00:16:24,069 --> 00:16:22,079
camera lens and it really is something

405
00:16:26,310 --> 00:16:24,079
that was originally intentional and then

406
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when they looked at it george lucas was

407
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like

408
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wow

409
00:16:31,749 --> 00:16:30,160
uh i know you know i don't want to

410
00:16:33,670 --> 00:16:31,759
confirm that that's the case you know

411
00:16:35,990 --> 00:16:33,680
i've read a lot about star wars in the

412
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last 40 plus years so i don't want to

413
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i'm pretty sure that's the origin story

414
00:16:42,870 --> 00:16:41,759
of this the two suns in the on the

415
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sunset

416
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and the reason it's so amazing of a shot

417
00:16:48,629 --> 00:16:47,040
in the movie i mean when i was writing

418
00:16:51,030 --> 00:16:48,639
this article i showed the picture to my

419
00:16:53,030 --> 00:16:51,040
wife and she's not a star wars nerd by

420
00:16:55,030 --> 00:16:53,040
any means but she's like oh yeah i

421
00:16:57,030 --> 00:16:55,040
remember that shot from the movie

422
00:16:59,749 --> 00:16:57,040
because

423
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it's epic and you know romantic and

424
00:17:04,309 --> 00:17:02,240
potent and it's just got all these like

425
00:17:06,710 --> 00:17:04,319
you know and it's totally for it like

426
00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:06,720
it's like no sunset we've ever seen on

427
00:17:10,150 --> 00:17:08,079
ours so you're like

428
00:17:12,949 --> 00:17:10,160
this is in the galaxy far far away so

429
00:17:15,029 --> 00:17:12,959
yeah yeah finding that confirming that

430
00:17:17,350 --> 00:17:15,039
the little bit of extra news in that

431
00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:17,360
story is that they found it using the uh

432
00:17:21,429 --> 00:17:19,280
wobble method rather than the transit

433
00:17:24,230 --> 00:17:21,439
method which is how we find most pilot

434
00:17:26,390 --> 00:17:24,240
uh exoplanets so not only was it

435
00:17:28,150 --> 00:17:26,400
confirming it but it was confirming

436
00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:28,160
using a different method so when the

437
00:17:33,029 --> 00:17:30,559
planet was originally found a year ago

438
00:17:35,350 --> 00:17:33,039
it was spotted because of the transits

439
00:17:37,110 --> 00:17:35,360
in front of those two stars now it was

440
00:17:39,590 --> 00:17:37,120
spotted because the gravitational

441
00:17:41,590 --> 00:17:39,600
effects the planet has on the stars so

442
00:17:42,870 --> 00:17:41,600
we're pretty darn sure that planet is

443
00:17:45,590 --> 00:17:42,880
there

444
00:17:46,390 --> 00:17:45,600
that's amazing man i love it absolutely

445
00:17:48,710 --> 00:17:46,400
love it

446
00:17:51,110 --> 00:17:48,720
doing incredible work well let's let's

447
00:17:52,390 --> 00:17:51,120
piggyback off of that to some more work

448
00:17:54,789 --> 00:17:52,400
that nasa

449
00:17:56,789 --> 00:17:54,799
is doing and that's the story you did on

450
00:17:59,270 --> 00:17:56,799
um there's a rocket that's ready to

451
00:18:01,909 --> 00:17:59,280
chase pulsating aurora

452
00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:01,919
this is so cool so explain to me if you

453
00:18:07,110 --> 00:18:04,960
don't mind um what is this aurora that

454
00:18:09,190 --> 00:18:07,120
they they want to chase and why what

455
00:18:10,549 --> 00:18:09,200
what what what purpose do they see in

456
00:18:12,549 --> 00:18:10,559
doing this

457
00:18:14,070 --> 00:18:12,559
uh if you've been i've never seen it in

458
00:18:16,470 --> 00:18:14,080
person but you've been lucky enough to

459
00:18:18,549 --> 00:18:16,480
be in a real northern latitude at the

460
00:18:21,430 --> 00:18:18,559
right time you can see the northern

461
00:18:24,310 --> 00:18:21,440
lights right that that those

462
00:18:27,510 --> 00:18:24,320
streaks of ribbon like colorful lights

463
00:18:30,549 --> 00:18:27,520
blues and greens and sometimes other

464
00:18:32,789 --> 00:18:30,559
components of the rainbow that happen up

465
00:18:35,430 --> 00:18:32,799
at these northern latitudes and it's an

466
00:18:37,190 --> 00:18:35,440
effective uh solar radiation in the

467
00:18:40,710 --> 00:18:37,200
atmosphere and other chemical effects

468
00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:40,720
really beautiful brilliant light show

469
00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:43,200
but what they found is every once in a

470
00:18:45,590 --> 00:18:44,400
while

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and

472
00:18:50,789 --> 00:18:48,080
these things seem to pulsate

473
00:18:52,230 --> 00:18:50,799
right there's like a pulsating

474
00:18:54,070 --> 00:18:52,240
component to it that they really

475
00:18:56,950 --> 00:18:54,080
couldn't quite understand

476
00:18:59,430 --> 00:18:56,960
and the first clue they had as to the

477
00:19:00,390 --> 00:18:59,440
origin if i remember this story right

478
00:19:03,029 --> 00:19:00,400
was

479
00:19:05,830 --> 00:19:03,039
during world war one

480
00:19:08,789 --> 00:19:05,840
radio operators in europe and northern

481
00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:08,799
latitudes were picking up these

482
00:19:14,390 --> 00:19:10,960
pulsating frequencies on their

483
00:19:16,390 --> 00:19:14,400
microphone on like radio receivers

484
00:19:18,549 --> 00:19:16,400
and they couldn't figure out what it was

485
00:19:21,909 --> 00:19:18,559
but it gave a clue

486
00:19:24,630 --> 00:19:21,919
that there was a a sound wave component

487
00:19:27,110 --> 00:19:24,640
to this electromagnetic phenomena

488
00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:27,120
so what they did was the the research

489
00:19:31,110 --> 00:19:28,720
team that's looking into this oh wow

490
00:19:32,950 --> 00:19:31,120
look that's a great picture so the

491
00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:32,960
research team that's looking into this

492
00:19:36,789 --> 00:19:34,480
what they did was

493
00:19:38,950 --> 00:19:36,799
they took a little rocket and they put a

494
00:19:41,350 --> 00:19:38,960
package of instruments on it

495
00:19:45,270 --> 00:19:41,360
based around that idea that there is

496
00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:45,280
this sonic component to the sound wave

497
00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:48,000
component to creating these uh um

498
00:19:53,750 --> 00:19:50,320
brilliant light shows and this pulsating

499
00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:53,760
effect in it and uh they hold it up

500
00:19:58,230 --> 00:19:55,760
there to where it's most commonly seen

501
00:19:59,990 --> 00:19:58,240
somewhere up i think in alaska possibly

502
00:20:01,110 --> 00:20:00,000
uh i don't remember exactly where

503
00:20:04,630 --> 00:20:01,120
because i write

504
00:20:06,549 --> 00:20:04,640
10 to 15 stories a week and uh

505
00:20:08,230 --> 00:20:06,559
but yeah they hold this rocket up there

506
00:20:11,270 --> 00:20:08,240
and that was last week and they

507
00:20:13,830 --> 00:20:11,280
positioned it so that the minute they

508
00:20:16,470 --> 00:20:13,840
picked up on this pulsating thing they

509
00:20:19,909 --> 00:20:16,480
can launch that thing have it fly right

510
00:20:22,710 --> 00:20:19,919
over the aurora and gather all kinds of

511
00:20:24,630 --> 00:20:22,720
information on it and really get to the

512
00:20:27,110 --> 00:20:24,640
bottom like what is making this thing

513
00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:27,120
pulsing so it's just kind of a neat

514
00:20:31,669 --> 00:20:29,440
science story you know it's not a it's

515
00:20:34,950 --> 00:20:31,679
not a search for life there's no aliens

516
00:20:36,470 --> 00:20:34,960
behind the pulsation uh but as far as

517
00:20:39,110 --> 00:20:36,480
like like

518
00:20:41,590 --> 00:20:39,120
what is causing it and the fact that

519
00:20:43,110 --> 00:20:41,600
again like radio operators in world war

520
00:20:45,029 --> 00:20:43,120
ii were picking this at world war one

521
00:20:46,149 --> 00:20:45,039
we're picking this up a hundred years

522
00:20:47,110 --> 00:20:46,159
ago

523
00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:47,120
right

524
00:20:50,710 --> 00:20:48,400
and

525
00:20:53,350 --> 00:20:50,720
now we finally have an answer so i

526
00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:53,360
believe if i remember that story right

527
00:20:58,230 --> 00:20:55,679
that rocket was poised to launch as

528
00:21:00,230 --> 00:20:58,240
early as february 24th that was kind of

529
00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:00,240
when the window opened

530
00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:02,480
and so my guess would be sitting here on

531
00:21:06,149 --> 00:21:04,240
this what second day of march the third

532
00:21:08,390 --> 00:21:06,159
day of march somewhere in the march here

533
00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:08,400
that it's probably already launched and

534
00:21:12,630 --> 00:21:10,640
they've already gathered the information

535
00:21:14,390 --> 00:21:12,640
but as is typical in the science world

536
00:21:16,870 --> 00:21:14,400
it'll probably be six months to 18

537
00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:16,880
months before we get a paper on what

538
00:21:21,990 --> 00:21:20,000
exactly they found but uh yeah that i

539
00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:22,000
believe that rocket is already shot up

540
00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:23,840
there and they've already got those

541
00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:25,600
readings so uh

542
00:21:29,990 --> 00:21:27,840
man it's just a beautiful i

543
00:21:32,710 --> 00:21:30,000
every once in a while when i'm writing a

544
00:21:34,710 --> 00:21:32,720
science story i have more fun digging

545
00:21:36,710 --> 00:21:34,720
through the pictures you know like every

546
00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:36,720
once in a while as a kid it's just like

547
00:21:41,830 --> 00:21:38,640
yeah like that star wars picture from

548
00:21:43,830 --> 00:21:41,840
the one before uh i think mj banayas our

549
00:21:45,750 --> 00:21:43,840
editor picked that out for that for

550
00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:45,760
another article i wrote about the binary

551
00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:48,000
stars like a year ago so i was digging

552
00:21:53,350 --> 00:21:50,720
through pictures for this one and i i

553
00:21:56,149 --> 00:21:53,360
mean these northern lights images are so

554
00:21:58,870 --> 00:21:56,159
beautiful so yeah that this was just a

555
00:22:01,270 --> 00:21:58,880
fun one to dig into and write about

556
00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:01,280
cool cool you know and it reminds me

557
00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:04,480
actually uh this whole concept of like

558
00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:06,640
flying something in gathering data

559
00:22:11,430 --> 00:22:09,360
remember twister when they put the

560
00:22:13,830 --> 00:22:11,440
dorothy into the tornado to try to

561
00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:13,840
gather what's inside of a tornado what's

562
00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:14,960
going on

563
00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:17,520
it's another tornado so maybe within

564
00:22:22,310 --> 00:22:19,679
this aurora we're going to find another

565
00:22:24,630 --> 00:22:22,320
aurora or maybe we are going to find

566
00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:24,640
some signs of intelligence in there who

567
00:22:32,950 --> 00:22:30,070
that's the thing about unexplained

568
00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:32,960
things in science ryan they have an idea

569
00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:34,799
of what caused it because of those world

570
00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:37,280
war one radio pickups and then the fact

571
00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:39,360
that it's been picked up using radio

572
00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:43,039
technology since but yeah as of now it's

573
00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:45,440
an unknown uh cause that pulsating

574
00:22:49,350 --> 00:22:47,200
phenomenon

575
00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:49,360
uh well hey i'm looking forward to the

576
00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:52,480
results and uh and i can't wait man if

577
00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:54,320
anything this is a beautiful image that

578
00:23:01,350 --> 00:22:59,430
i'll admit i picked that one out i had

579
00:23:02,950 --> 00:23:01,360
about 10 of them and this one with the

580
00:23:05,029 --> 00:23:02,960
two people sitting there staring at i

581
00:23:07,270 --> 00:23:05,039
went that is just beauty that's it

582
00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:07,280
that's the one i love it well hey

583
00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:09,440
speaking of unexplained let's move to

584
00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:12,640
this really cool story that you did that

585
00:23:17,590 --> 00:23:15,120
really comforted me i know a lot of

586
00:23:19,029 --> 00:23:17,600
people out there you know they fear what

587
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:19,039
comes after

588
00:23:23,270 --> 00:23:21,280
after you know we cease to be here on

589
00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:23,280
this planet and um

590
00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:26,000
this story kind of uh gave me some

591
00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:28,640
comfort and hope you know of like what

592
00:23:32,870 --> 00:23:30,880
happens and what could possibly happen

593
00:23:34,470 --> 00:23:32,880
and we might be getting closer to

594
00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:34,480
answering some of those questions you

595
00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:36,720
have people like uh robert bigelow

596
00:23:41,269 --> 00:23:38,880
looking into the science of um

597
00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:41,279
consciousness in the afterlife and and

598
00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:43,120
now you have these scientists looking

599
00:23:47,909 --> 00:23:45,600
into what actually flashes before your

600
00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:47,919
eyes we know that old cliche of your

601
00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:51,039
life flashes before your eyes and we're

602
00:23:55,909 --> 00:23:53,840
coming to realize that might actually be

603
00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:55,919
true so yeah would you mind telling us a

604
00:24:02,390 --> 00:23:58,559
little about does your brain replay your

605
00:24:05,430 --> 00:24:02,400
best life when you die yeah i first of

606
00:24:08,789 --> 00:24:05,440
all yeah this is uh a really interesting

607
00:24:10,070 --> 00:24:08,799
story to look into and uh basically what

608
00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:10,080
happened here

609
00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:12,400
is researchers had this patient he was

610
00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:14,880
87 years old

611
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:16,080
he was having

612
00:24:21,190 --> 00:24:19,679
regular seizures and uh they knew he was

613
00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:21,200
in ill health and near the end of his

614
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:24,480
life and so they had him hooked up to

615
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:28,000
mri brain scan imaging type equipment

616
00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:31,120
to basically monitor these seizures

617
00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:34,080
to try and get an insight into

618
00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:36,880
what was causing the frequency and maybe

619
00:24:39,909 --> 00:24:38,640
even help him with some treatment as he

620
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:39,919
was aging

621
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:41,760
and what happened was is in the middle

622
00:24:46,070 --> 00:24:43,600
of one of these sessions he had a heart

623
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:46,080
attack and passed away

624
00:24:49,669 --> 00:24:48,000
the the the as i point out the story

625
00:24:51,830 --> 00:24:49,679
that's the sad part of the story the

626
00:24:55,029 --> 00:24:51,840
interesting part

627
00:24:57,269 --> 00:24:55,039
is having a guy whose brain is hooked up

628
00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:57,279
to all this equipment

629
00:25:02,789 --> 00:25:00,720
at the moment he passes away provided

630
00:25:04,470 --> 00:25:02,799
this treasure trove of information that

631
00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:04,480
you can't plan for

632
00:25:08,950 --> 00:25:07,200
you know you can't have this expensive

633
00:25:11,669 --> 00:25:08,960
of equipment and this level of

634
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:11,679
monitoring going on on a brain

635
00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:13,440
anytime you think somebody might be

636
00:25:18,549 --> 00:25:15,679
close to dying they just happen to be

637
00:25:19,669 --> 00:25:18,559
studying for another reason

638
00:25:20,710 --> 00:25:19,679
and what they found was really

639
00:25:21,909 --> 00:25:20,720
incredible

640
00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:21,919
so

641
00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:24,720
there's all kinds of brain waves and

642
00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:26,720
brain wave activity that comes out of

643
00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:28,799
your brain and by brain waves that's

644
00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:31,440
just the electromagnetic description of

645
00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:34,799
the shape the the uh electricity is

646
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:37,120
taking in your brain it's a it's a

647
00:25:41,990 --> 00:25:39,840
complex term for a simple process but

648
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:42,000
the different brain waves we often see

649
00:25:45,669 --> 00:25:44,640
in there like beta waves alpha waves

650
00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:45,679
gamma

651
00:25:51,430 --> 00:25:48,640
delta theta waves all of these sort of

652
00:25:53,909 --> 00:25:51,440
things and what they found was

653
00:25:56,549 --> 00:25:53,919
when this guy passed at the moment of

654
00:25:59,029 --> 00:25:56,559
death and and for some period this

655
00:26:02,549 --> 00:25:59,039
period of minutes afterwards

656
00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:02,559
they were seeing activity in his brain

657
00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:04,880
in the areas of the brain associated

658
00:26:08,789 --> 00:26:07,120
with memory and in all of these

659
00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:08,799
different brain wave patterns

660
00:26:11,350 --> 00:26:10,400
representing like

661
00:26:12,549 --> 00:26:11,360
thought

662
00:26:20,390 --> 00:26:12,559
and uh

663
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:20,400
all these other things were all mixed up

664
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:23,200
but happening in a very normal way

665
00:26:28,470 --> 00:26:24,960
that one would associate with almost

666
00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:28,480
like a dream recall state where you're

667
00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:30,880
having a pleasant dream

668
00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:32,640
where you're remembering a great memory

669
00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:35,039
as a childhood or something like that

670
00:26:40,070 --> 00:26:36,960
and that was the most

671
00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:40,080
uh most apt description of the wave

672
00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:41,919
pattern and the brain regions they were

673
00:26:45,990 --> 00:26:43,360
seeing in this guy

674
00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:46,000
is it sure as heck looked like

675
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:49,120
he was reliving his best life that as he

676
00:26:53,669 --> 00:26:51,200
was on the way out the door and even

677
00:26:55,669 --> 00:26:53,679
after his body had stopped functioning

678
00:26:57,510 --> 00:26:55,679
his brain was still playing out the end

679
00:27:00,310 --> 00:26:57,520
of that show

680
00:27:02,149 --> 00:27:00,320
wow i think somebody contacted me via

681
00:27:03,990 --> 00:27:02,159
twitter and was like well isn't this a

682
00:27:06,630 --> 00:27:04,000
bit reductive and doesn't make

683
00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:06,640
consciousness a local phenomenon

684
00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:09,600
i thought actually if anything it lended

685
00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:10,640
great

686
00:27:16,870 --> 00:27:13,200
credence to a non-local conscious

687
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:16,880
phenomena because after the body is not

688
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:18,880
really perfectly working anymore and you

689
00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:20,640
are essentially dead

690
00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:23,039
this antenna that in a non-local

691
00:27:27,190 --> 00:27:25,360
consciousness theory that your brain is

692
00:27:30,389 --> 00:27:27,200
more like an antenna picking up on

693
00:27:32,310 --> 00:27:30,399
consciousness and and conveying it uh

694
00:27:34,149 --> 00:27:32,320
that yeah that would be what you might

695
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:34,159
see as the body stop working but the

696
00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:35,760
brain's still picking up a little bit of

697
00:27:39,669 --> 00:27:37,760
signal while it's viable

698
00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:39,679
and what it's it's almost like a

699
00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:40,960
transition

700
00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:43,039
so it's not

701
00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:44,799
yes it could be the fact that in a

702
00:27:48,149 --> 00:27:46,720
material world

703
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:48,159
what they caught was an image of

704
00:27:52,230 --> 00:27:50,240
somebody dying and having pleasant

705
00:27:53,510 --> 00:27:52,240
memories on the way out the door

706
00:27:55,909 --> 00:27:53,520
but in a

707
00:27:57,669 --> 00:27:55,919
life after death or a continuation of

708
00:27:59,669 --> 00:27:57,679
consciousness or more particularly like

709
00:28:01,110 --> 00:27:59,679
a quantum non-local

710
00:28:02,710 --> 00:28:01,120
consciousness

711
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:02,720
argument which is relatively new in

712
00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:05,279
science but a pretty popular area of

713
00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:08,720
study um this lends just as much

714
00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:11,039
credence to that area if not more so it

715
00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:13,039
was a really like you said bigelow and

716
00:28:16,710 --> 00:28:14,240
these other ones that are kind of

717
00:28:18,870 --> 00:28:16,720
looking into it at this time

718
00:28:20,549 --> 00:28:18,880
for them to have this chunk information

719
00:28:23,430 --> 00:28:20,559
like this where you could look at and go

720
00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:23,440
here was a guy while he was passing away

721
00:28:28,710 --> 00:28:25,600
and we have this information and this

722
00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:28,720
information looks like yeah he was uh

723
00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:32,000
he was channeling his best life

724
00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:34,399
i love it i absolutely love that like

725
00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:36,640
you couldn't plan this these things any

726
00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:39,200
better you know and that's kind of the

727
00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:41,200
the beauty of science like a lot of it

728
00:28:46,230 --> 00:28:43,679
is happenstance and we just happened to

729
00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:46,240
trip upon something you know um

730
00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:49,360
unbeknownst to us at the time and and

731
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:52,480
there you go scientific um you know

732
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:54,640
discovery made you know look it happens

733
00:29:00,230 --> 00:28:57,120
like all the time right you know

734
00:29:01,909 --> 00:29:00,240
we will joke about like like uh propecia

735
00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:01,919
to keep you from losing your hair was

736
00:29:05,990 --> 00:29:03,520
like a blood pressure medicine right

737
00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:06,000
like this happens all the time that you

738
00:29:08,870 --> 00:29:06,960
find

739
00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:08,880
something you're looking for one thing

740
00:29:13,269 --> 00:29:11,120
and you find something else i have one

741
00:29:15,430 --> 00:29:13,279
of the stories on the list you gave me

742
00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:15,440
is where uh they were looking to confirm

743
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:17,360
one planet they found a whole other one

744
00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:19,600
right so like there are definitely

745
00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:21,520
circumstances like that and yeah in this

746
00:29:25,669 --> 00:29:24,000
case they're studying epilepsy they're

747
00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:25,679
studying seizures

748
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:27,520
and all of a sudden they're able to

749
00:29:32,950 --> 00:29:30,000
publish an entire paper

750
00:29:34,950 --> 00:29:32,960
about what happens in the brain at the

751
00:29:37,269 --> 00:29:34,960
moment of death something they were not

752
00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:37,279
working on at all but all of a sudden

753
00:29:41,990 --> 00:29:39,039
here they are publishing a paper on it

754
00:29:43,510 --> 00:29:42,000
because it's it's that significant of a

755
00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:43,520
recording you know the right place at

756
00:29:48,389 --> 00:29:45,200
the right time

757
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:48,399
crazy crazy well let's let's move to

758
00:29:52,870 --> 00:29:50,320
that that story you were talking about

759
00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:52,880
about finding another planet this is the

760
00:29:58,950 --> 00:29:55,600
new planet found orbiting proxima

761
00:30:02,230 --> 00:29:58,960
centauri now um you know we hear about

762
00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:02,240
these ideas of exoplanets and and things

763
00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:05,120
like that but um this is a little bit uh

764
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:07,360
closer to us you know our stellar

765
00:30:11,350 --> 00:30:09,600
neighbor as it were so yeah would you

766
00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:11,360
mind telling us a little bit about this

767
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:13,600
story

768
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:16,320
do you like stories of the strange the

769
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:18,480
weird and the unexplained then we want

770
00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:21,279
you to check out jim harold's campfire

771
00:30:26,789 --> 00:30:24,000
the concept is pretty simple jim talks

772
00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:26,799
to regular people about strange stuff

773
00:30:32,549 --> 00:30:28,880
that happens to them and yes that

774
00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:32,559
includes ufos along with cryptids ghosts

775
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:35,120
and head scratchers he doesn't

776
00:30:40,389 --> 00:30:38,240
exaggerate or play a lot of spooky music

777
00:30:43,350 --> 00:30:40,399
kind of like i'm doing right now the

778
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:43,360
stories speak for themselves ones like a

779
00:30:49,269 --> 00:30:46,480
ghost story involving serial killer ted

780
00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:49,279
bundy or the young man who encountered

781
00:30:54,870 --> 00:30:52,480
an eight-legged demon then there's the

782
00:30:57,669 --> 00:30:54,880
story of an alien abduction by what

783
00:31:00,630 --> 00:30:57,679
could be considered a reptilian now not

784
00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:00,640
all the stories are horrifying some are

785
00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:02,880
actually pretty heartwarming like a

786
00:31:07,750 --> 00:31:05,440
visit from a past loved one or a

787
00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:07,760
peaceful near-death experience

788
00:31:13,669 --> 00:31:10,640
regardless these are true and

789
00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:13,679
fascinating stories told by ordinary

790
00:31:17,269 --> 00:31:15,600
people who've had extraordinary

791
00:31:19,909 --> 00:31:17,279
experiences

792
00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:19,919
tune in to jim herald's campfire on

793
00:31:25,909 --> 00:31:23,440
apple podcasts spotify or wherever you

794
00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:25,919
listen to somewhere in the skies and

795
00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:27,039
remember

796
00:31:33,029 --> 00:31:30,000
stay spooky

797
00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:33,039
this is uh this is really exciting to me

798
00:31:39,430 --> 00:31:34,640
so

799
00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:39,440
is advanced enough

800
00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:41,519
that we're gonna go to other star

801
00:31:46,149 --> 00:31:44,080
systems and we're gonna go to other

802
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:46,159
planets that aren't in our star our you

803
00:31:51,430 --> 00:31:48,960
know uh solar system and we're going to

804
00:31:53,669 --> 00:31:51,440
study planets hopefully

805
00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:53,679
rocky planets that are in the habitable

806
00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:55,919
zone that have a chance at

807
00:31:57,909 --> 00:31:56,960
life

808
00:32:00,789 --> 00:31:57,919
uh

809
00:32:03,830 --> 00:32:00,799
what better place to start than you know

810
00:32:06,549 --> 00:32:03,840
the closest one which is proxima chart

811
00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:10,549
at one point i believe it's 2016

812
00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:13,600
they found the telltale wobble

813
00:32:17,110 --> 00:32:15,760
again using the wobble method but that

814
00:32:19,110 --> 00:32:17,120
telltale

815
00:32:21,909 --> 00:32:19,120
shimmy of the star

816
00:32:23,909 --> 00:32:21,919
that indicated there was a planet there

817
00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:23,919
and not only is there a planet there

818
00:32:30,230 --> 00:32:26,240
that they found they dubbed that one

819
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:30,240
proxima b but that proxima b

820
00:32:35,909 --> 00:32:32,720
is indeed the right orbit the right

821
00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:35,919
orbital distance from its star

822
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:38,640
to have water the habitable zone to have

823
00:32:43,110 --> 00:32:40,799
liquid water on the surface

824
00:32:46,710 --> 00:32:43,120
so it's an earth-like planet

825
00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:46,720
it's size-wise uh mass

826
00:32:51,509 --> 00:32:50,080
uh and and habitable zone so we already

827
00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:51,519
knew like hey

828
00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:53,760
if we're gonna ever go to the stars

829
00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:55,440
let's see if there's a planet around the

830
00:33:00,549 --> 00:32:57,440
closest one they found it

831
00:33:02,310 --> 00:33:00,559
so this latest study is exactly what you

832
00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:02,320
and i just talked about

833
00:33:06,549 --> 00:33:03,600
so

834
00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:06,559
here we are 2021 last year and

835
00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:08,720
researchers at the i believe it was the

836
00:33:12,870 --> 00:33:10,720
let me double check here

837
00:33:16,149 --> 00:33:12,880
yes so there's the thing called the

838
00:33:18,070 --> 00:33:16,159
european southern observatory in chile

839
00:33:21,029 --> 00:33:18,080
and they have a telescope there it's my

840
00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:21,039
favorite telescope name it's the vlt

841
00:33:27,430 --> 00:33:24,480
which stands for very large telescope

842
00:33:29,190 --> 00:33:27,440
so it's by far the best i mean hubble

843
00:33:30,549 --> 00:33:29,200
all these other are great but that's a

844
00:33:33,190 --> 00:33:30,559
great name

845
00:33:35,669 --> 00:33:33,200
yeah how literal can you get yeah the

846
00:33:38,230 --> 00:33:35,679
eso vlt is about as cool as it gets

847
00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:38,240
right the very large coast so

848
00:33:44,870 --> 00:33:40,240
researchers use this very large

849
00:33:47,110 --> 00:33:44,880
telescope to again look at proxima

850
00:33:48,310 --> 00:33:47,120
and to measure the light coming from the

851
00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:48,320
host star

852
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:50,399
and see if they could confirm that that

853
00:33:57,590 --> 00:33:54,320
proxima b that that planet exists

854
00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:57,600
and they found two things one yes

855
00:34:01,509 --> 00:33:59,279
proxima b is there

856
00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:01,519
and two by the way there's a whole other

857
00:34:05,750 --> 00:34:04,720
planet there too proxima d

858
00:34:08,470 --> 00:34:05,760
and

859
00:34:10,470 --> 00:34:08,480
yes now proxima d

860
00:34:13,349 --> 00:34:10,480
is not in the habitable zone it's

861
00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:13,359
smaller than earth it's also rocky

862
00:34:17,669 --> 00:34:16,000
but it's much closer to the horse star

863
00:34:20,869 --> 00:34:17,679
so think of like a

864
00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:20,879
mercury and how close it is to our sun

865
00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:22,960
and therefore on the surface it's like a

866
00:34:29,430 --> 00:34:25,919
molten lava hell you know right like

867
00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:29,440
nothing would probably live there and so

868
00:34:34,710 --> 00:34:32,240
that's what they found so they did

869
00:34:37,669 --> 00:34:34,720
confirm this the planet they were hoping

870
00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:37,679
to confirm and so while we're here

871
00:34:42,389 --> 00:34:39,760
there's another planet here now the

872
00:34:45,430 --> 00:34:42,399
reason that's encouraging is because

873
00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:45,440
we're hoping proxima b is habitable but

874
00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:47,760
multi-planet systems have various

875
00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:49,760
astronomical advantages in the search

876
00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:52,480
for extra terrestrial intelligence so

877
00:34:57,109 --> 00:34:54,960
ideally you would have like a big gas

878
00:34:58,950 --> 00:34:57,119
giant like a jupiter that does and

879
00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:58,960
saturn in our solar system that kind of

880
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:01,040
like keep a lot of the big rocks from

881
00:35:05,990 --> 00:35:03,280
coming in and slamming into us

882
00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:06,000
and uh and killing life over and over so

883
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:09,119
signs of more planets in as in a star

884
00:35:14,710 --> 00:35:11,520
system that has a habitable zone is

885
00:35:17,430 --> 00:35:14,720
already really encouraging so

886
00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:17,440
i wrote about another story uh not that

887
00:35:21,190 --> 00:35:18,640
long ago

888
00:35:24,470 --> 00:35:21,200
about a mission being developed

889
00:35:26,550 --> 00:35:24,480
using uh directed energy propulsion so

890
00:35:28,390 --> 00:35:26,560
basically you put like a satellite space

891
00:35:30,790 --> 00:35:28,400
that has a laser

892
00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:30,800
and you put like a solar sail that uses

893
00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:33,520
that that you propel with that laser you

894
00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:36,160
know imagine like you have a uh

895
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:37,920
like a little parachute you're shooting

896
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:40,000
it with your hose right it's pushing it

897
00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:43,200
forward so this laser would hit that

898
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:45,520
solar sail and this is using current

899
00:35:49,109 --> 00:35:47,359
technology so this is something that's

900
00:35:51,270 --> 00:35:49,119
within our

901
00:35:53,030 --> 00:35:51,280
viable range

902
00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:53,040
and if you could shoot and then the

903
00:35:56,470 --> 00:35:54,560
mission they're designing is to go to

904
00:35:58,230 --> 00:35:56,480
proxima centauri

905
00:36:00,390 --> 00:35:58,240
so if you shoot that thing with the

906
00:36:02,630 --> 00:36:00,400
laser and you keep the laser pointed on

907
00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:02,640
it you keep pushing that probe faster

908
00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:04,000
and faster

909
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:06,640
there is a point around 20 to 30 percent

910
00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:08,880
the speed of light where

911
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:11,200
other aspects of physics get involved

912
00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:13,200
that prevent it from really probably

913
00:36:17,349 --> 00:36:15,040
traveling much faster

914
00:36:19,349 --> 00:36:17,359
but imagine you could get to 20 the

915
00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:19,359
speed of light which seems something we

916
00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:21,760
will be able to do may may not be in my

917
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:24,160
lifetime maybe in yours but you know

918
00:36:29,430 --> 00:36:26,560
we're not that far from doing this sort

919
00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:29,440
of uh directed energy propulsion

920
00:36:35,030 --> 00:36:32,800
if you could go 20 the speed of light

921
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:35,040
and proxima is a little over four light

922
00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:36,480
years away

923
00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:39,200
my simple math tells me that's about 20

924
00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:41,040
years yeah

925
00:36:46,630 --> 00:36:43,839
no that's nothing right like the the two

926
00:36:50,470 --> 00:36:46,640
mars rover spirit opportunity launched

927
00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:50,480
to the uh uh mars in the mid 90s like

928
00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:53,359
that's almost 30 years ago so the late

929
00:36:58,870 --> 00:36:56,400
90s the fact that like we can send a

930
00:37:01,109 --> 00:36:58,880
probe now granted it's not going to land

931
00:37:02,950 --> 00:37:01,119
on those planets it's not going to do

932
00:37:05,270 --> 00:37:02,960
anything other than

933
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:05,280
whip by them and take pictures and

934
00:37:09,990 --> 00:37:08,640
readings and stuff but it will do that

935
00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:10,000
so

936
00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:13,200
the idea that we have a first place to

937
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:14,000
look

938
00:37:18,069 --> 00:37:15,680
that's within

939
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:18,079
technological spinning distance at least

940
00:37:22,710 --> 00:37:21,040
within the next 20 30 years

941
00:37:25,030 --> 00:37:22,720
and the fact that there's a habitable

942
00:37:27,589 --> 00:37:25,040
planet there and the fact that we found

943
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:27,599
this other planet i mean that is

944
00:37:31,270 --> 00:37:29,280
because imagine that we went oh the

945
00:37:33,190 --> 00:37:31,280
closest star has no planets the second

946
00:37:35,589 --> 00:37:33,200
closest you know the only place we found

947
00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:35,599
planets are 40 50 60 a thousand light

948
00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:38,000
years away 10 000 light years away no

949
00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:40,720
the very closest one has a habitable

950
00:37:44,069 --> 00:37:42,640
planet now we found another planet there

951
00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:44,079
too

952
00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:47,119
crazy man to think that like maybe

953
00:37:51,589 --> 00:37:49,680
it's a lot closer than we ever

954
00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:51,599
thought it could be and just think of

955
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:53,520
like how that would shatter

956
00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:54,320
the

957
00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:00,160
say that nothing could travel here in

958
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:02,640
terms of light speed and it's it's it's

959
00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:05,520
impossible mathematically and now

960
00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:06,560
like

961
00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:09,280
there a lot of scientists are

962
00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:12,000
turning you know turning face and saying

963
00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:12,880
huh

964
00:38:18,390 --> 00:38:14,400
we could have been wrong on this the

965
00:38:19,829 --> 00:38:18,400
whole time so it's uh it's exciting if

966
00:38:22,390 --> 00:38:19,839
you were building a case in the

967
00:38:24,069 --> 00:38:22,400
courtroom in 1969

968
00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:24,079
at the end of blue book

969
00:38:28,470 --> 00:38:24,880
for

970
00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:28,480
uh aliens already being here visiting us

971
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:30,640
you would have to build the case

972
00:38:35,109 --> 00:38:33,280
that uh humans could survive long-term

973
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:35,119
or anything could survive long-term in

974
00:38:37,670 --> 00:38:36,240
space

975
00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:37,680
you would have to build the case that

976
00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:39,200
there are planets

977
00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:41,280
around other stars

978
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:43,200
you would then have to build the case

979
00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:44,880
that some of those planets would be

980
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:46,720
rocky like earth

981
00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:48,079
then you would have to build the case

982
00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:50,160
that some of them would have water

983
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:51,680
they'd have to build the case that some

984
00:38:55,270 --> 00:38:53,520
of those rocky water ones would be in

985
00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:55,280
the habitable zone

986
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:56,560
and then you would have to build the

987
00:39:02,230 --> 00:38:59,280
case that yes traversing the

988
00:39:03,190 --> 00:39:02,240
interstellar distances for that life to

989
00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:03,200
get here

990
00:39:08,470 --> 00:39:06,480
in my lifetime i was born in 1969 the

991
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:08,480
year that men first humans first walked

992
00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:10,400
on the moon and the year the blue book

993
00:39:14,790 --> 00:39:12,480
finished up and i can tell you that in

994
00:39:17,190 --> 00:39:14,800
my lifetime everything but the last one

995
00:39:19,990 --> 00:39:17,200
on that list has been covered right like

996
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:20,000
there are planets everywhere humans we

997
00:39:25,270 --> 00:39:22,000
can send things up into space for a year

998
00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:27,190
they're in the habitable zone they're

999
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:31,200
rocky planets and not only are they

1000
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:34,079
common they're extremely common avi low

1001
00:39:38,069 --> 00:39:36,320
but harvard said in an interview the

1002
00:39:40,829 --> 00:39:38,079
other day that

1003
00:39:43,829 --> 00:39:40,839
data seems to indicate that as much as

1004
00:39:46,069 --> 00:39:43,839
half of the planets that are sun-like

1005
00:39:46,870 --> 00:39:46,079
that have a star like our sun

1006
00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:46,880
uh

1007
00:39:50,790 --> 00:39:49,040
have rocky exoplanets in the habitable

1008
00:39:52,230 --> 00:39:50,800
zone i mean think about that like

1009
00:39:55,030 --> 00:39:52,240
everyone talks about the billions of

1010
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:55,040
galaxies and billions of star systems

1011
00:39:57,910 --> 00:39:56,800
think about the idea

1012
00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:57,920
that like

1013
00:40:01,910 --> 00:39:59,760
half of them would have a planet around

1014
00:40:03,670 --> 00:40:01,920
it and then all these binary ones that

1015
00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:03,680
we talked about

1016
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:06,640
half of those or more would have these

1017
00:40:12,069 --> 00:40:09,040
habitable zone exoplanets

1018
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:12,079
so what happens to the discussion

1019
00:40:15,829 --> 00:40:13,200
about

1020
00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:15,839
life already visiting earth whether it's

1021
00:40:19,990 --> 00:40:17,680
happening or not but what happens about

1022
00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:20,000
that theoretical discussion

1023
00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:22,160
if we start finding signs of life in the

1024
00:40:26,550 --> 00:40:24,640
atmosphere in these planets we're

1025
00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:26,560
finding is common

1026
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:28,000
what happens if you say all right we've

1027
00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:31,920
spotted 25 000 planets and 10 000 of

1028
00:40:36,309 --> 00:40:33,920
them are rocky and 5 000 of those are in

1029
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:36,319
the habitable zone and of those 5 000

1030
00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:38,480
habitable ones a couple of thousand of

1031
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:40,400
them have gases in their atmosphere that

1032
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:41,920
seem to indicate they have living things

1033
00:40:46,069 --> 00:40:42,880
there

1034
00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:46,079
now you have a ton of origin points

1035
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,119
of life that could be coming here

1036
00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:51,599
and again you just get down to like you

1037
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:54,000
said that that interstellar distance

1038
00:41:00,950 --> 00:40:57,040
which is legit it's a legitimate issue

1039
00:41:02,550 --> 00:41:00,960
but again in the last 120 years ago we'd

1040
00:41:07,589 --> 00:41:02,560
have an airplane

1041
00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:07,599
and here we are in in virtually one the

1042
00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:09,200
oldest person on the planet i think is

1043
00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:12,079
118. and i think that it's a japanese

1044
00:41:15,750 --> 00:41:14,400
woman so she was alive

1045
00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:15,760
before

1046
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:19,760
airplanes flew and in her lifetime we're

1047
00:41:25,910 --> 00:41:23,200
sending missions across the solar system

1048
00:41:27,829 --> 00:41:25,920
we have spacecraft that left in the 70s

1049
00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:27,839
that have already left our solar system

1050
00:41:31,510 --> 00:41:30,160
voyager 1 and 2 have already left the

1051
00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:31,520
solar system

1052
00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:33,520
think of that in that short period of

1053
00:41:38,710 --> 00:41:36,400
time the technological advancement and

1054
00:41:41,829 --> 00:41:38,720
then tell me that in

1055
00:41:44,069 --> 00:41:41,839
50 years or 500 years or 5 000 years

1056
00:41:45,190 --> 00:41:44,079
that the human species won't be able to

1057
00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:45,200
go

1058
00:41:49,990 --> 00:41:47,520
across those interstellar distances even

1059
00:41:51,349 --> 00:41:50,000
with the probe i find it a ridiculous

1060
00:41:53,829 --> 00:41:51,359
proposition

1061
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:53,839
absolutely i couldn't agree more man i

1062
00:41:59,829 --> 00:41:56,560
think we're we're building that case and

1063
00:42:02,150 --> 00:41:59,839
it's like you said we're so close within

1064
00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:02,160
within the span of a few decades we've

1065
00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:04,480
been able to accomplish that so i can't

1066
00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:07,440
even imagine if that last one that last

1067
00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:09,520
challenge is the only thing keeping us

1068
00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:12,319
back like just think of when we will be

1069
00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:13,359
able to

1070
00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:14,960
to do that and

1071
00:42:19,030 --> 00:42:17,119
who knows man could still be within the

1072
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:19,040
lifetime of that japanese woman who

1073
00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:20,880
knows who knows i mean really right

1074
00:42:25,910 --> 00:42:23,520
we're really things are moving so fast

1075
00:42:28,390 --> 00:42:25,920
ryan that's you know me i i report on

1076
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:28,400
exotic propulsion so i talk to these

1077
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:30,960
people that are building working on warp

1078
00:42:36,550 --> 00:42:33,359
drives and solar sails and directed

1079
00:42:38,790 --> 00:42:36,560
energy and plasma rockets and

1080
00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:38,800
fusion energy propelled rockets that

1081
00:42:44,390 --> 00:42:42,079
could go 10 20 the speed of light i mean

1082
00:42:47,109 --> 00:42:44,400
a bunch of technologies that

1083
00:42:48,550 --> 00:42:47,119
again if you look 50 or 100 years ago

1084
00:42:50,630 --> 00:42:48,560
the technologies that were in

1085
00:42:52,710 --> 00:42:50,640
development not only have they all been

1086
00:42:55,109 --> 00:42:52,720
developed the ones from 100 years ago

1087
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:55,119
but we've gone way past that so these

1088
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:56,800
are things we're planning now where are

1089
00:43:01,030 --> 00:42:59,520
we going to be in 50 years or 100 years

1090
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:01,040
i think when you're doing the ryan

1091
00:43:07,430 --> 00:43:04,480
sprague somewhere in the spot sky's a 3d

1092
00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:07,440
hologram podcast in the meta universe

1093
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:09,520
like 30 years from now you may be

1094
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:11,440
talking about a probe zeroing in on

1095
00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:12,400
proxima

1096
00:43:16,390 --> 00:43:14,240
and that habitable planet getting ready

1097
00:43:18,470 --> 00:43:16,400
to take photos i just don't think it's

1098
00:43:22,390 --> 00:43:18,480
it's that far away

1099
00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:22,400
let's hope so man let's hope so well hey

1100
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:24,640
it's so cool i know i know that's why i

1101
00:43:28,309 --> 00:43:26,400
love the stories you bring forward this

1102
00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:28,319
isn't like dry

1103
00:43:34,069 --> 00:43:31,280
you know data-driven um you know

1104
00:43:37,270 --> 00:43:34,079
mathematical stuff like you're showing

1105
00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:37,280
us the ambitions of the scientists out

1106
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:39,200
there the ones who are willing to

1107
00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:41,440
ask those tougher questions and not

1108
00:43:45,430 --> 00:43:43,040
conform to the

1109
00:43:47,270 --> 00:43:45,440
you know the the status quo of science

1110
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:47,280
and and that's what the debrief is all

1111
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:50,000
about you know disruptive science and

1112
00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:52,240
what's that next step and who's willing

1113
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:54,000
to take those risks to ask those

1114
00:43:58,230 --> 00:43:56,000
questions and i know those are kind of

1115
00:44:00,230 --> 00:43:58,240
the people that you have spoken to and

1116
00:44:02,230 --> 00:44:00,240
the stories you're bringing forward and

1117
00:44:03,829 --> 00:44:02,240
um this last one that i kind of wanted

1118
00:44:05,349 --> 00:44:03,839
to talk to you about at least the

1119
00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:05,359
stories how i wanted to share i know

1120
00:44:08,309 --> 00:44:06,560
there's a couple more that are going to

1121
00:44:09,990 --> 00:44:08,319
be coming out that you're going to tease

1122
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:10,000
for us here but um

1123
00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:12,720
this idea this i love this theory i've

1124
00:44:17,670 --> 00:44:15,599
been all about it for years um the idea

1125
00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:17,680
that we are the aliens

1126
00:44:22,309 --> 00:44:18,880
to our own

1127
00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:22,319
planet earthling is but a subjective

1128
00:44:29,190 --> 00:44:25,760
term when it comes to uh who we are as a

1129
00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:29,200
um a species so yeah apparently

1130
00:44:33,030 --> 00:44:31,280
this theory is a lot more plausible than

1131
00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:33,040
we think and scientists are looking

1132
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:34,800
further into it so would you mind

1133
00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:36,720
telling us a little about this story of

1134
00:44:40,870 --> 00:44:39,760
um the origins of our species possibly

1135
00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:40,880
possibly

1136
00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:43,359
this is as fundamental as science

1137
00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:45,040
question as there is ryan and i

1138
00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:46,319
mentioned that right at the beginning of

1139
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:47,680
this article

1140
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:49,680
i'm gonna fix this right here

1141
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:51,599
this is as fundamental as questions

1142
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:53,680
again

1143
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:55,920
if you look at the history of life on

1144
00:44:59,670 --> 00:44:57,440
our planet

1145
00:45:01,589 --> 00:44:59,680
and you start with the earliest forms of

1146
00:45:02,630 --> 00:45:01,599
life maybe three four hundred million

1147
00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:02,640
years

1148
00:45:07,109 --> 00:45:05,280
after the after the planet first form so

1149
00:45:09,990 --> 00:45:07,119
we're going back maybe four billion

1150
00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:10,000
years in time

1151
00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:12,960
those first microscopic

1152
00:45:16,470 --> 00:45:14,880
organisms

1153
00:45:18,950 --> 00:45:16,480
over time

1154
00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:18,960
evolved into different things and those

1155
00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:21,440
evolved into things and if you skip

1156
00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:23,440
ahead to today

1157
00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:25,680
all of the forms of life you see on

1158
00:45:31,829 --> 00:45:28,400
earth from plants to microscopic

1159
00:45:34,150 --> 00:45:31,839
eukaryotes or whatever they call them to

1160
00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:34,160
animals to you and me

1161
00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:35,760
this is all

1162
00:45:41,829 --> 00:45:39,040
relatively traceable from a scientific

1163
00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:41,839
perspective if you give me that first

1164
00:45:46,630 --> 00:45:44,160
organisms you give me those first

1165
00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:46,640
microscopic organisms and you give me

1166
00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:48,000
enough time

1167
00:45:53,750 --> 00:45:50,560
and you give me just the darwinian you

1168
00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:53,760
know idea of the survival of the fittest

1169
00:45:58,870 --> 00:45:56,160
that over time you will get this vast

1170
00:46:01,109 --> 00:45:58,880
array of organisms and it's something we

1171
00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:01,119
can trace through the fossil record it's

1172
00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:03,200
something we see happen every day today

1173
00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:05,920
so you can look at the coronavirus and

1174
00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:08,240
see how it's evolving across generations

1175
00:46:13,349 --> 00:46:10,960
as it continually replicates so that

1176
00:46:15,190 --> 00:46:13,359
evolutionary process

1177
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:15,200
seems to indicate

1178
00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:18,960
that the complex life we see today

1179
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:21,359
came from that simple life

1180
00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:24,400
but the question has always been

1181
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:27,040
where did that simple life come from how

1182
00:46:33,430 --> 00:46:30,720
do we go from zero to one we know how we

1183
00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:33,440
go from one to where we are here it's

1184
00:46:37,750 --> 00:46:35,920
evolution and there you could argue

1185
00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:37,760
the science and some of the aspects of

1186
00:46:41,349 --> 00:46:39,040
evolution that people get more

1187
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:41,359
frustrated about but the bottom line is

1188
00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:42,880
there's a nice

1189
00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:46,079
fossil record showing billions of years

1190
00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:48,560
of evolution to get to where we are but

1191
00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:50,319
that beginning

1192
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:51,359
that

1193
00:46:59,109 --> 00:46:56,560
got water it's got rock it's got all

1194
00:47:02,390 --> 00:46:59,119
these minerals and things but nothing is

1195
00:47:03,990 --> 00:47:02,400
alive on it there's nothing alive and

1196
00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:04,000
then

1197
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:06,079
something is suddenly alive

1198
00:47:12,870 --> 00:47:09,119
suddenly we have one we have microscopic

1199
00:47:14,950 --> 00:47:12,880
organisms and once you light that fire

1200
00:47:17,910 --> 00:47:14,960
it's just a matter of time and pressures

1201
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:17,920
to end up with complex life forms that's

1202
00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:20,800
just seems to be the pattern

1203
00:47:24,710 --> 00:47:23,040
how do we get to one how do we go from

1204
00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:24,720
zero to one

1205
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:27,359
so when i was growing up taking science

1206
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:28,960
classes there was this term that

1207
00:47:34,150 --> 00:47:31,040
scientists like to use it was a

1208
00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:34,160
pro prebiotic soup

1209
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:36,400
and it was this the idea of that like on

1210
00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:38,400
earth you had these like

1211
00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:41,359
thermal vents and it was gurgling and

1212
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:44,319
there's volcanic activity and lightning

1213
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:45,040
and

1214
00:47:48,309 --> 00:47:47,200
all these things kind of magically

1215
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:48,319
combine

1216
00:47:52,309 --> 00:47:50,000
and boom

1217
00:47:54,549 --> 00:47:52,319
you have the first like amino acids

1218
00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:54,559
turning into peptide chains and you have

1219
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:57,520
those peptide chains turning into voila

1220
00:48:03,990 --> 00:48:00,960
those very first microscopic organisms

1221
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:04,000
and you go from no life to life some

1222
00:48:10,150 --> 00:48:06,800
sort of frankenstein combination of

1223
00:48:12,069 --> 00:48:10,160
electricity and heat and chemistry and

1224
00:48:13,750 --> 00:48:12,079
boom we have life and then from there

1225
00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:13,760
it's just a runaway train to get to

1226
00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:15,920
where we are now

1227
00:48:20,950 --> 00:48:17,520
interestingly

1228
00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:20,960
that may very well be wrong and that's

1229
00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:23,119
what this new study in this new research

1230
00:48:27,670 --> 00:48:24,640
and there's been some research kind of

1231
00:48:30,950 --> 00:48:27,680
building here so that old idea of the

1232
00:48:32,470 --> 00:48:30,960
the prebiotic soup the the magic formula

1233
00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:32,480
on earth that takes

1234
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:34,880
uh just raw material and turns it into

1235
00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:35,760
life

1236
00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:38,160
that that belief has been under fire for

1237
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:40,640
a long time now and this may be the nail

1238
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:42,240
in that coffin because here's what they

1239
00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:46,230
we know

1240
00:48:51,589 --> 00:48:48,720
that the the building blocks of life

1241
00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:51,599
things that are called amino acids

1242
00:48:55,270 --> 00:48:53,359
are everywhere they're in space and

1243
00:48:57,589 --> 00:48:55,280
they're constantly raining down on us

1244
00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:57,599
they're constantly raining down on earth

1245
00:49:01,510 --> 00:48:59,520
we find them in meteorites all the time

1246
00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:01,520
we find them in martian meteorites we

1247
00:49:05,589 --> 00:49:03,200
find them in interstellar rock fragments

1248
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:05,599
we find them in everything right so we

1249
00:49:09,990 --> 00:49:06,960
know like

1250
00:49:12,790 --> 00:49:10,000
the stuff you make life out of

1251
00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:12,800
comes here all the time

1252
00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:15,040
but it really did seem like you needed

1253
00:49:18,230 --> 00:49:16,720
that that

1254
00:49:20,390 --> 00:49:18,240
again that prebiotic super the

1255
00:49:23,349 --> 00:49:20,400
electricity and all the magic stuff to

1256
00:49:24,950 --> 00:49:23,359
turn it into life

1257
00:49:27,589 --> 00:49:24,960
however

1258
00:49:30,309 --> 00:49:27,599
what they did in a lab is they recreated

1259
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:30,319
the environment of space

1260
00:49:37,270 --> 00:49:32,960
and they showed how they can take these

1261
00:49:39,829 --> 00:49:37,280
uh these glycine amino acids

1262
00:49:42,309 --> 00:49:39,839
that are common in what it i think they

1263
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:42,319
say in the interstellar dust cloud in

1264
00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:44,400
the vacuum of space and an interstellar

1265
00:49:49,670 --> 00:49:47,119
dust cloud you'll find these

1266
00:49:51,109 --> 00:49:49,680
and in a simulated space like

1267
00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:51,119
environment

1268
00:49:57,829 --> 00:49:54,079
they were able to in one step

1269
00:50:01,750 --> 00:49:57,839
turn that single glycine into a peptide

1270
00:50:03,270 --> 00:50:01,760
chain a polyglycine chain and again

1271
00:50:06,150 --> 00:50:03,280
without getting too much into like

1272
00:50:10,069 --> 00:50:06,160
biology class and how this all works

1273
00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:10,079
the step from not life to life has this

1274
00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:12,400
transition you have to go from from

1275
00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:15,200
individual you know amino acids to these

1276
00:50:20,069 --> 00:50:17,520
chains that make like muscle tissue and

1277
00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:20,079
bone and all this other stuff

1278
00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:22,720
but there was always this energy problem

1279
00:50:27,270 --> 00:50:25,359
and how do you make that happen well

1280
00:50:29,910 --> 00:50:27,280
they did it in the lab and they

1281
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:29,920
simulated space they were able to take

1282
00:50:34,390 --> 00:50:32,240
make peptide chains that were multiple

1283
00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:34,400
amino acids long like i think one of the

1284
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:36,400
chains was over a dozen long and again

1285
00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:39,760
this is like a first try experiment and

1286
00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:41,040
they were able to do without the

1287
00:50:45,430 --> 00:50:43,760
electricity or without the water

1288
00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:45,440
and that's critical because we always

1289
00:50:50,470 --> 00:50:47,920
say you need water for life to form

1290
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:50,480
well what may be the case

1291
00:50:55,829 --> 00:50:53,760
is you need water for life to thrive so

1292
00:50:58,549 --> 00:50:55,839
that's what we have on earth we have to

1293
00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:58,559
basically like imagine the seeds that

1294
00:51:02,710 --> 00:51:00,640
are blown through the air of i live in a

1295
00:51:05,349 --> 00:51:02,720
suburban neighborhood and all of a

1296
00:51:07,510 --> 00:51:05,359
sudden like a a plant will crop up in

1297
00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:07,520
the middle of my lawn that is nothing i

1298
00:51:12,549 --> 00:51:10,640
planted but maybe a bird was nice enough

1299
00:51:13,589 --> 00:51:12,559
to plant it for me you know what i'm

1300
00:51:16,950 --> 00:51:13,599
saying

1301
00:51:18,230 --> 00:51:16,960
yeah this really lends an idea to an

1302
00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:18,240
argument

1303
00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:22,000
that life is common in the universe

1304
00:51:27,190 --> 00:51:24,480
the planet earth formed

1305
00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:27,200
and once it kind of cooled and settled

1306
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:28,640
down i mean it's getting hit with these

1307
00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:31,040
amino acids from day one

1308
00:51:37,109 --> 00:51:33,839
and once it cooled down and settled down

1309
00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:37,119
meaning tectonic activity enough that

1310
00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:39,359
life could take hold

1311
00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:40,240
that

1312
00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:42,720
peptide chains and the the building

1313
00:51:45,990 --> 00:51:44,720
blocks and the actual early life

1314
00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:46,000
structures

1315
00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:48,640
were being made in space all on their

1316
00:51:53,270 --> 00:51:51,280
own and were raining down on us and we

1317
00:51:55,829 --> 00:51:53,280
just had to be a garden

1318
00:51:57,990 --> 00:51:55,839
capable of fertilizing that life of

1319
00:52:00,390 --> 00:51:58,000
supporting that life of giving that

1320
00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:00,400
would be the womb for that life and

1321
00:52:05,349 --> 00:52:02,640
maybe that's all worth is maybe we don't

1322
00:52:06,630 --> 00:52:05,359
create life here we're just a nice batch

1323
00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:06,640
of soil

1324
00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:08,640
and life essentially

1325
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:11,680
is planted here

1326
00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:15,119
interesting we are the fertilizer to our

1327
00:52:19,829 --> 00:52:18,079
own planet i i love that i absolutely

1328
00:52:23,030 --> 00:52:19,839
love that man it makes you think you

1329
00:52:24,150 --> 00:52:23,040
know well then what's the next chapter

1330
00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:24,160
in the evidence well you know if you

1331
00:52:28,309 --> 00:52:26,240
watch the movie prometheus right i think

1332
00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:28,319
that was prometheus where this idea that

1333
00:52:35,109 --> 00:52:31,920
like the guy seated his dna into the

1334
00:52:37,670 --> 00:52:35,119
water to build life well you know

1335
00:52:40,230 --> 00:52:37,680
that that idea of panspermia that idea

1336
00:52:42,630 --> 00:52:40,240
of life across the cosmos being spread

1337
00:52:45,349 --> 00:52:42,640
maybe even intentionally if you were

1338
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:45,359
going to intentionally spread life to

1339
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:48,160
another planet as an advanced species of

1340
00:52:53,910 --> 00:52:50,480
some sort that was your goal

1341
00:52:56,230 --> 00:52:53,920
rather than spreading something specific

1342
00:52:58,630 --> 00:52:56,240
if you could spread the basics if you

1343
00:52:59,430 --> 00:52:58,640
could spread these peptides

1344
00:53:03,990 --> 00:52:59,440
and

1345
00:53:05,910 --> 00:53:04,000
the materials that are on that planet

1346
00:53:08,230 --> 00:53:05,920
the minerals that are on the planet the

1347
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:08,240
temperatures all that things it creates

1348
00:53:13,670 --> 00:53:10,480
life that is more or less like unique to

1349
00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:13,680
that planet so rather than sending down

1350
00:53:17,430 --> 00:53:15,839
engineered organisms go we'll we'll give

1351
00:53:19,030 --> 00:53:17,440
him a cow and we'll give him a duck and

1352
00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:19,040
we'll give him a woolly mammoth and a

1353
00:53:22,870 --> 00:53:20,720
couple of people and whatever

1354
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:22,880
like like at noah's ark

1355
00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:24,240
it's like no no no

1356
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:26,960
let's just send down the seeds and what

1357
00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:28,400
grows grows

1358
00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:30,160
see what happens

1359
00:53:36,390 --> 00:53:33,680
so it lends an argument a that life

1360
00:53:39,190 --> 00:53:36,400
could just be everywhere which is what

1361
00:53:40,790 --> 00:53:39,200
those of us who are in this field

1362
00:53:43,109 --> 00:53:40,800
and i say it all the time people that

1363
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:43,119
work at nasa the european space agency

1364
00:53:48,630 --> 00:53:46,559
place like that if you ask them in 2022

1365
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:48,640
they will tell you their primary mission

1366
00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:50,720
is now the search for life that they

1367
00:53:56,390 --> 00:53:53,440
were astronomy organizations in the 20th

1368
00:53:58,630 --> 00:53:56,400
century in the 21st century

1369
00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:58,640
nasa employs astrobiologists

1370
00:54:02,870 --> 00:54:00,480
exobiologists

1371
00:54:06,069 --> 00:54:02,880
jobs that didn't exist 15 years ago 20

1372
00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:06,079
years ago even some of them 10 years ago

1373
00:54:10,630 --> 00:54:08,559
so in that search for life

1374
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:10,640
the idea that

1375
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:13,680
not only may earth not be that unique

1376
00:54:18,390 --> 00:54:16,079
but life may have not even started here

1377
00:54:20,790 --> 00:54:18,400
life just may be in the cosmos just

1378
00:54:23,349 --> 00:54:20,800
maybe something and it just it rains

1379
00:54:25,030 --> 00:54:23,359
down everywhere and when it finds a nice

1380
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:25,040
patch of soil i mean drive down the

1381
00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:27,599
street i see a little like little little

1382
00:54:31,750 --> 00:54:29,280
twig growing up in the crack in the

1383
00:54:34,150 --> 00:54:31,760
concrete earth just may be the crack in

1384
00:54:36,069 --> 00:54:34,160
the concrete man and that's where life

1385
00:54:39,670 --> 00:54:36,079
came up

1386
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:39,680
i love it i love it hey purple rain

1387
00:54:44,710 --> 00:54:42,240
right right yep that's that's all i got

1388
00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:44,720
to say about chubby rain as my wife

1389
00:54:52,630 --> 00:54:50,470
hey man hey we're all unique in our own

1390
00:54:54,950 --> 00:54:52,640
ways that's right i think chubby right

1391
00:54:57,030 --> 00:54:54,960
from the eddie murphy movie

1392
00:55:00,150 --> 00:54:57,040
where at the end of the movie it's the

1393
00:55:03,510 --> 00:55:00,160
the chubby ray that's eddie murphy and

1394
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:09,430
i remembered it look at this

1395
00:55:14,950 --> 00:55:12,630
of the early 2000s i think yeah yes yeah

1396
00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:14,960
it's about 20 years great film one of my

1397
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:16,480
favorite eddie murphy performances

1398
00:55:20,950 --> 00:55:18,000
because he plays two characters in the

1399
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:20,960
movie and the nerdy brother character is

1400
00:55:25,430 --> 00:55:23,520
one of his best performances

1401
00:55:28,069 --> 00:55:25,440
i love it i love it he's the master at

1402
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:28,079
playing you know those sorts of things i

1403
00:55:32,630 --> 00:55:30,240
love it i love it well hey man that's

1404
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:32,640
all the stories that i have from uh what

1405
00:55:35,829 --> 00:55:34,319
i saw over at the debrief but i know

1406
00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:35,839
you're gonna be coming out with some

1407
00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:38,160
other ones in the coming days this will

1408
00:55:42,309 --> 00:55:40,000
probably they'll probably be out by the

1409
00:55:44,309 --> 00:55:42,319
time this airs but are there any other

1410
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:44,319
articles you're really excited about

1411
00:55:49,670 --> 00:55:46,880
teasing to us here sure that's not gonna

1412
00:55:51,190 --> 00:55:49,680
be coming out soon i just put a video up

1413
00:55:53,190 --> 00:55:51,200
that should go up in the next couple of

1414
00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:53,200
days here so about the time this podcast

1415
00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:54,640
comes out you can probably go ahead and

1416
00:55:56,950 --> 00:55:55,760
look at it

1417
00:55:58,870 --> 00:55:56,960
and

1418
00:56:01,030 --> 00:55:58,880
basically there's a company in san diego

1419
00:56:03,430 --> 00:56:01,040
in carlsbad california which is part of

1420
00:56:05,109 --> 00:56:03,440
san diego county just south of here in

1421
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:05,119
southern california

1422
00:56:08,630 --> 00:56:06,960
and i wrote them about them last year

1423
00:56:11,109 --> 00:56:08,640
they've created

1424
00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:11,119
a three-wheeled electric vehicle it

1425
00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:13,440
looks like an electric car but it's got

1426
00:56:17,829 --> 00:56:15,440
two wheels in the front one in the back

1427
00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:17,839
helps it qualify as a motorcycle so it

1428
00:56:21,829 --> 00:56:20,240
made it easier to get road legal but

1429
00:56:24,150 --> 00:56:21,839
it's enclosed so you don't have to wear

1430
00:56:26,789 --> 00:56:24,160
a helmet like a motorcycle

1431
00:56:29,670 --> 00:56:26,799
they're called aptera motors

1432
00:56:31,990 --> 00:56:29,680
and the reason this car they created is

1433
00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:32,000
really cool is a couple of things and

1434
00:56:36,390 --> 00:56:34,319
then the reason the video that just came

1435
00:56:38,789 --> 00:56:36,400
out is really cool is a whole other

1436
00:56:41,109 --> 00:56:38,799
thing so what's great about this car is

1437
00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:41,119
it's solar powered it's a purely

1438
00:56:45,829 --> 00:56:43,040
electric vehicle

1439
00:56:48,069 --> 00:56:45,839
you can park it in your driveway and

1440
00:56:49,829 --> 00:56:48,079
it's covered in solar panels

1441
00:56:51,750 --> 00:56:49,839
and depending on where you live and how

1442
00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:51,760
much sun you get

1443
00:56:56,630 --> 00:56:54,160
they say in a typical about 80 percent

1444
00:56:58,950 --> 00:56:56,640
of the neighborhoods in north america

1445
00:57:03,670 --> 00:56:58,960
you would generate

1446
00:57:07,270 --> 00:57:03,680
excuse me around 46 to 50 miles a day of

1447
00:57:08,789 --> 00:57:07,280
driving energy in this car right so if

1448
00:57:11,270 --> 00:57:08,799
you don't drive for two or three days in

1449
00:57:14,470 --> 00:57:11,280
a row you got enough you got like 150

1450
00:57:16,230 --> 00:57:14,480
miles driving in really high sun areas

1451
00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:16,240
if you're like in arizona or some parts

1452
00:57:19,990 --> 00:57:18,160
of the southwestern u.s

1453
00:57:22,950 --> 00:57:20,000
uh some people calculate you'll get as

1454
00:57:24,549 --> 00:57:22,960
many as 70 miles a day driving but

1455
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:24,559
either way so you've got this car right

1456
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:26,400
it's solar powered

1457
00:57:32,950 --> 00:57:29,280
if you want to plug it in and charge it

1458
00:57:34,789 --> 00:57:32,960
you can plug it in on a 110 ac outlet

1459
00:57:37,349 --> 00:57:34,799
so it'll like

1460
00:57:41,030 --> 00:57:37,359
off your regular old plug it'll get

1461
00:57:43,030 --> 00:57:41,040
about 130 miles a day charged from that

1462
00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:43,040
and you can charge it when the thing is

1463
00:57:47,349 --> 00:57:44,480
fully charged

1464
00:57:49,270 --> 00:57:47,359
it can go a thousand miles on one charge

1465
00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:49,280
and that's always the big anxiety with

1466
00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:51,280
electric vehicles is what they call

1467
00:57:54,789 --> 00:57:53,280
range anxiety anything over about three

1468
00:57:56,549 --> 00:57:54,799
four hundred miles is pretty rare for

1469
00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:56,559
electric vehicles

1470
00:58:02,150 --> 00:57:59,280
so this new video that just came out is

1471
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:02,160
a drag race that the company put on

1472
00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:04,400
and they took their newer model their

1473
00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:07,680
their aptera motors beta model and they

1474
00:58:12,230 --> 00:58:10,400
took their original their alpha model

1475
00:58:15,270 --> 00:58:12,240
and they put them in a drag race against

1476
00:58:17,670 --> 00:58:15,280
an audi r8 which is an electric car

1477
00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:17,680
and a tesla model 3 which of course we

1478
00:58:20,950 --> 00:58:19,440
know tesla is the gold standard of

1479
00:58:24,789 --> 00:58:20,960
electric cars

1480
00:58:27,190 --> 00:58:24,799
and uh since uh aptera motors is the one

1481
00:58:29,349 --> 00:58:27,200
to put the drag race up on their youtube

1482
00:58:31,109 --> 00:58:29,359
channel i think you can guess who won

1483
00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:31,119
the drag race

1484
00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:33,280
it was really neat to watch because here

1485
00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:34,720
you have a car

1486
00:58:39,430 --> 00:58:37,280
that if like if you plug a a toyota

1487
00:58:41,349 --> 00:58:39,440
prius into an electrical outlet at your

1488
00:58:43,990 --> 00:58:41,359
house and charge it up all day you get

1489
00:58:46,549 --> 00:58:44,000
about like eight miles of driving if you

1490
00:58:49,589 --> 00:58:46,559
plug this thing in you get 130 miles so

1491
00:58:52,630 --> 00:58:49,599
it's this amazing car for that reason

1492
00:58:54,309 --> 00:58:52,640
and the solar power and then it's faster

1493
00:58:56,470 --> 00:58:54,319
than the tesla and the driver so it'll

1494
00:58:58,630 --> 00:58:56,480
go zero to 16 about three and a half

1495
00:59:00,710 --> 00:58:58,640
seconds i mean when i was a kid in the

1496
00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:00,720
80s that was like corvette times like he

1497
00:59:05,270 --> 00:59:02,960
almost couldn't get cars that was like

1498
00:59:07,190 --> 00:59:05,280
ferrari type times like there weren't

1499
00:59:08,789 --> 00:59:07,200
cars that even did that so the things

1500
00:59:11,190 --> 00:59:08,799
fast as heck

1501
00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:11,200
it's completely road legal

1502
00:59:16,309 --> 00:59:12,960
when i wrote about them last year they

1503
00:59:18,309 --> 00:59:16,319
were shooting for the end of 2020 2021

1504
00:59:20,230 --> 00:59:18,319
to get their first models out they're

1505
00:59:22,710 --> 00:59:20,240
not quite out yet but they're still

1506
00:59:24,470 --> 00:59:22,720
expecting delivery sometime this year

1507
00:59:26,150 --> 00:59:24,480
they're taking deposits i don't get a

1508
00:59:28,710 --> 00:59:26,160
commission so i'm not selling them to

1509
00:59:31,270 --> 00:59:28,720
you but uh but if you want to go watch

1510
00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:31,280
the video and see this really killer

1511
00:59:34,710 --> 00:59:33,119
electric vehicle within that story i

1512
00:59:37,030 --> 00:59:34,720
have a couple other videos from the

1513
00:59:39,670 --> 00:59:37,040
company showing things just a really

1514
00:59:42,470 --> 00:59:39,680
neat vehicle and yeah

1515
00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:42,480
and uh if a guy in a tesla model three

1516
00:59:46,870 --> 00:59:45,200
cuts you off you can dust into

1517
00:59:49,030 --> 00:59:46,880
with this thing yeah especially if you

1518
00:59:51,190 --> 00:59:49,040
live in arizona yeah

1519
00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:51,200
well yeah that's for the extra storage

1520
00:59:55,670 --> 00:59:53,680
but you the speed

1521
00:59:56,710 --> 00:59:55,680
is good anywhere you live but yeah you

1522
00:59:58,870 --> 00:59:56,720
can get

1523
01:00:01,589 --> 00:59:58,880
extra miles of driving if you have good

1524
01:00:03,510 --> 01:00:01,599
sun no the sun doesn't affect the

1525
01:00:04,870 --> 01:00:03,520
acceleration on it

1526
01:00:07,510 --> 01:00:04,880
okay

1527
01:00:08,870 --> 01:00:07,520
the one other story i was gonna jump

1528
01:00:11,109 --> 01:00:08,880
into here

1529
01:00:11,910 --> 01:00:11,119
at least and this is really cool by the

1530
01:00:13,030 --> 01:00:11,920
way

1531
01:00:15,030 --> 01:00:13,040
so

1532
01:00:17,589 --> 01:00:15,040
uh if you cruise around the internet

1533
01:00:20,309 --> 01:00:17,599
ever and you put in ionic wind or

1534
01:00:22,549 --> 01:00:20,319
lifters or ionic lifters and i think a

1535
01:00:24,870 --> 01:00:22,559
lot of people the kind of the ufo and

1536
01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:24,880
and science communities have done this

1537
01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:27,040
you go to youtube you'll see these

1538
01:00:29,990 --> 01:00:29,040
videos of these things they're usually

1539
01:00:32,549 --> 01:00:30,000
like

1540
01:00:34,950 --> 01:00:32,559
balsa wood triangle or a square with

1541
01:00:37,109 --> 01:00:34,960
some foil wrapped around it and it has

1542
01:00:38,390 --> 01:00:37,119
wires running to it and they flick the

1543
01:00:40,549 --> 01:00:38,400
switch on

1544
01:00:43,030 --> 01:00:40,559
and these things will hover and it'll

1545
01:00:45,190 --> 01:00:43,040
like go up in the air with like no

1546
01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:45,200
moving parts as a matter of fact the

1547
01:00:49,030 --> 01:00:46,960
scientists that first discovered it like

1548
01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:49,040
a hundred years ago thought he had an

1549
01:00:54,390 --> 01:00:52,000
anti-gravity effect and it was it was

1550
01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:54,400
known as the b field brown effect back

1551
01:00:58,630 --> 01:00:55,440
in the day

1552
01:01:01,510 --> 01:00:58,640
but it's basically an ionic wind so like

1553
01:01:03,670 --> 01:01:01,520
you know like uh the air filter in your

1554
01:01:05,349 --> 01:01:03,680
house those those ionic air filters

1555
01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:05,359
where you turn it on and there's a

1556
01:01:10,390 --> 01:01:07,280
little breeze going through there right

1557
01:01:13,190 --> 01:01:10,400
like it actually pushes air through but

1558
01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:13,200
there's no fan moving

1559
01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:16,400
it's just the the thick and thin uh

1560
01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:18,960
electronic substrates on either side

1561
01:01:25,430 --> 01:01:21,280
using an electric charge to create a

1562
01:01:27,630 --> 01:01:25,440
wind by by moving air through there

1563
01:01:29,829 --> 01:01:27,640
so in water it's like an electro

1564
01:01:32,390 --> 01:01:29,839
hydrodynamic effect

1565
01:01:33,589 --> 01:01:32,400
so in air the term they're using is an

1566
01:01:40,549 --> 01:01:33,599
electro

1567
01:01:42,549 --> 01:01:40,559
uh propulsion if you could theoretically

1568
01:01:44,470 --> 01:01:42,559
build this into a vehicle now here's

1569
01:01:46,549 --> 01:01:44,480
always been the problem when you build

1570
01:01:48,710 --> 01:01:46,559
one of these hobby lifters

1571
01:01:50,870 --> 01:01:48,720
the power plant that the battery or

1572
01:01:53,190 --> 01:01:50,880
whatever is powering it has to be down

1573
01:01:55,109 --> 01:01:53,200
on the ground you got a tether to it

1574
01:01:56,870 --> 01:01:55,119
because it's just the weight doesn't

1575
01:01:59,910 --> 01:01:56,880
work the thing doesn't create enough

1576
01:02:01,270 --> 01:01:59,920
lift for the batteries to be on board so

1577
01:02:03,910 --> 01:02:01,280
even though people have been building

1578
01:02:05,670 --> 01:02:03,920
these lifters for generations you can't

1579
01:02:08,470 --> 01:02:05,680
build one and go out and jump in it and

1580
01:02:10,470 --> 01:02:08,480
fly around because it just

1581
01:02:12,630 --> 01:02:10,480
just the the battery alone just there's

1582
01:02:14,630 --> 01:02:12,640
too much weight the power plant alone no

1583
01:02:16,069 --> 01:02:14,640
matter how you power it it can't create

1584
01:02:17,589 --> 01:02:16,079
enough lift

1585
01:02:21,349 --> 01:02:17,599
well

1586
01:02:23,750 --> 01:02:21,359
in 2018 some researchers at mit

1587
01:02:26,710 --> 01:02:23,760
built this model airplane

1588
01:02:29,029 --> 01:02:26,720
and i have that in the video as well as

1589
01:02:31,029 --> 01:02:29,039
the new update which is again they're

1590
01:02:33,190 --> 01:02:31,039
one of these groups from nasa they got

1591
01:02:36,470 --> 01:02:33,200
funding to take the plane to the next

1592
01:02:39,190 --> 01:02:36,480
level and this model plane

1593
01:02:42,470 --> 01:02:39,200
flies with no moving parts and on the

1594
01:02:44,230 --> 01:02:42,480
video you see it fly through the mit gym

1595
01:02:46,710 --> 01:02:44,240
and it kind of looks like a like a

1596
01:02:50,230 --> 01:02:46,720
wright brothers like by wing like kitty

1597
01:02:52,309 --> 01:02:50,240
hawk sort of like really simple design

1598
01:02:55,589 --> 01:02:52,319
but the main thing is it's not tethered

1599
01:02:57,510 --> 01:02:55,599
to anything it's carrying its own uh

1600
01:02:59,990 --> 01:02:57,520
uh i forget what type of their uh

1601
01:03:01,910 --> 01:03:00,000
lithium polymer batteries i believe not

1602
01:03:03,589 --> 01:03:01,920
lithium ion but they're a type of

1603
01:03:05,430 --> 01:03:03,599
battery

1604
01:03:07,589 --> 01:03:05,440
that they were able to conserve enough

1605
01:03:10,710 --> 01:03:07,599
of the weight and they were able to get

1606
01:03:13,270 --> 01:03:10,720
enough lift off of this airplane in 2018

1607
01:03:15,670 --> 01:03:13,280
that the thing does fly

1608
01:03:16,789 --> 01:03:15,680
on its own now the reason this is really

1609
01:03:18,470 --> 01:03:16,799
interesting

1610
01:03:23,029 --> 01:03:18,480
is if you think about the reports of

1611
01:03:25,029 --> 01:03:23,039
drones or or uaps harassing the us

1612
01:03:27,190 --> 01:03:25,039
military off the coast

1613
01:03:28,630 --> 01:03:27,200
and you think of the descriptions of

1614
01:03:30,789 --> 01:03:28,640
some of them and their performance

1615
01:03:31,990 --> 01:03:30,799
capabilities it sure sounds like

1616
01:03:33,510 --> 01:03:32,000
something you would think of as

1617
01:03:36,390 --> 01:03:33,520
anti-gravity

1618
01:03:39,270 --> 01:03:36,400
but what these guys are designing

1619
01:03:43,029 --> 01:03:39,280
is something that has no moving parts is

1620
01:03:45,829 --> 01:03:43,039
completely silent but flies just using

1621
01:03:47,990 --> 01:03:45,839
the power of electricity in my store i

1622
01:03:50,549 --> 01:03:48,000
even show a design of one that was built

1623
01:03:53,190 --> 01:03:50,559
in the early 2000s that looks like a

1624
01:03:54,630 --> 01:03:53,200
flying saucer and that one actually took

1625
01:03:56,549 --> 01:03:54,640
off the ground and hovered for about

1626
01:03:57,349 --> 01:03:56,559
three minutes before it late set back

1627
01:03:59,430 --> 01:03:57,359
down

1628
01:04:02,150 --> 01:03:59,440
and we have heard nothing about that

1629
01:04:03,670 --> 01:04:02,160
design and that's that's i don't know if

1630
01:04:05,430 --> 01:04:03,680
it's you know something's going on

1631
01:04:07,670 --> 01:04:05,440
behind the scenes or whatever but that

1632
01:04:09,589 --> 01:04:07,680
one kind of came and went in 2006 but

1633
01:04:11,589 --> 01:04:09,599
then it's on wikipedia i put a link to

1634
01:04:14,870 --> 01:04:11,599
it and you can look at the flying saucer

1635
01:04:16,069 --> 01:04:14,880
one the video of this airplane is real

1636
01:04:19,430 --> 01:04:16,079
and so

1637
01:04:22,150 --> 01:04:19,440
because of that success at mit of flying

1638
01:04:24,870 --> 01:04:22,160
of a vehicle powered just with the power

1639
01:04:26,470 --> 01:04:24,880
of electricity and no moving parts

1640
01:04:29,029 --> 01:04:26,480
nasa said all right here's a chunk of

1641
01:04:31,750 --> 01:04:29,039
money you guys go to phase two as

1642
01:04:33,270 --> 01:04:31,760
opposed to phase one we want to try and

1643
01:04:35,349 --> 01:04:33,280
build one of these

1644
01:04:38,309 --> 01:04:35,359
that would be like a drone

1645
01:04:39,349 --> 01:04:38,319
that can fly over an area where sound is

1646
01:04:40,950 --> 01:04:39,359
an issue

1647
01:04:43,190 --> 01:04:40,960
so imagine like

1648
01:04:45,910 --> 01:04:43,200
packaged drones right that we want

1649
01:04:48,549 --> 01:04:45,920
flying in in neighborhoods or airplanes

1650
01:04:51,430 --> 01:04:48,559
you want flying over or even delivering

1651
01:04:53,670 --> 01:04:51,440
medicine at 2 am to a critical patient

1652
01:04:56,390 --> 01:04:53,680
but it's where people don't want stuff

1653
01:04:58,870 --> 01:04:56,400
flying overhead because of noise imagine

1654
01:05:02,230 --> 01:04:58,880
these perfectly silent

1655
01:05:05,349 --> 01:05:02,240
vehicles that have no moving parts that

1656
01:05:07,910 --> 01:05:05,359
fly just using electricity so that's

1657
01:05:10,549 --> 01:05:07,920
that's what the grant is for is to try

1658
01:05:12,789 --> 01:05:10,559
and develop that technology further to

1659
01:05:15,430 --> 01:05:12,799
create these new ducted uh

1660
01:05:16,630 --> 01:05:15,440
uh type of uh

1661
01:05:18,630 --> 01:05:16,640
i'm trying to think of what they call

1662
01:05:20,470 --> 01:05:18,640
them like these electrodynamic ducts

1663
01:05:22,390 --> 01:05:20,480
that would funnel the air in a better

1664
01:05:24,630 --> 01:05:22,400
way and you would put them stack them

1665
01:05:26,630 --> 01:05:24,640
it's a really interesting article it's

1666
01:05:29,589 --> 01:05:26,640
not that complex i make it more complex

1667
01:05:32,789 --> 01:05:29,599
than it is but basically

1668
01:05:37,270 --> 01:05:35,430
no propellant no moving part now no

1669
01:05:38,950 --> 01:05:37,280
propellant it is pushing ionic went

1670
01:05:40,549 --> 01:05:38,960
through but but you don't have to put

1671
01:05:42,390 --> 01:05:40,559
any on board propellant you don't have

1672
01:05:44,789 --> 01:05:42,400
to put like a rocket view or something

1673
01:05:47,589 --> 01:05:44,799
offer it to fire it can just fly around

1674
01:05:49,270 --> 01:05:47,599
using electricity so if they're already

1675
01:05:50,950 --> 01:05:49,280
building a little plane out of it that

1676
01:05:52,549 --> 01:05:50,960
they can fly around

1677
01:05:54,150 --> 01:05:52,559
the idea of one of these getting to the

1678
01:05:56,309 --> 01:05:54,160
point of a drone which is what they're

1679
01:05:58,789 --> 01:05:56,319
talking about that may be able to carry

1680
01:06:01,109 --> 01:05:58,799
sensors on it or carry a package on it

1681
01:06:03,670 --> 01:06:01,119
or whatever and then you scale up to the

1682
01:06:05,029 --> 01:06:03,680
idea of maybe you could solar power it

1683
01:06:08,069 --> 01:06:05,039
so it doesn't have to carry the

1684
01:06:09,910 --> 01:06:08,079
batteries on board so there's a lot of

1685
01:06:11,430 --> 01:06:09,920
interesting technological applications

1686
01:06:14,309 --> 01:06:11,440
that this group is going to be looking

1687
01:06:16,789 --> 01:06:14,319
for that but yeah it's called electro

1688
01:06:18,870 --> 01:06:16,799
aerodynamic propulsion and it is

1689
01:06:21,270 --> 01:06:18,880
something being funded by nasa and they

1690
01:06:23,990 --> 01:06:21,280
got a a real little airplane at mit that

1691
01:06:26,470 --> 01:06:24,000
flies so it's pretty i love it

1692
01:06:27,670 --> 01:06:26,480
phase two here we come i love it

1693
01:06:29,109 --> 01:06:27,680
so cool

1694
01:06:31,349 --> 01:06:29,119
so well hey

1695
01:06:34,069 --> 01:06:31,359
chris this has been incredible man i

1696
01:06:36,150 --> 01:06:34,079
knew that all i had to do was pick some

1697
01:06:39,029 --> 01:06:36,160
headlines and we would have enough to

1698
01:06:41,430 --> 01:06:39,039
talk about for over an hour man so i'm

1699
01:06:43,829 --> 01:06:41,440
going to wrap things up here with you

1700
01:06:46,390 --> 01:06:43,839
but i want to thank you every time you

1701
01:06:48,950 --> 01:06:46,400
come on here i can just hear the passion

1702
01:06:51,829 --> 01:06:48,960
and the excitement in your voice and it

1703
01:06:53,829 --> 01:06:51,839
shows by the voluminous amounts of

1704
01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:53,839
articles you put out over there at the

1705
01:06:58,789 --> 01:06:55,920
debrief and you know man it gives me

1706
01:07:00,710 --> 01:06:58,799
hope for the future and um i appreciate

1707
01:07:03,670 --> 01:07:00,720
it thank you ryan

1708
01:07:05,349 --> 01:07:03,680
my pleasure man so um i can tell you the

1709
01:07:07,190 --> 01:07:05,359
one thing i wanted to bring up before we

1710
01:07:09,190 --> 01:07:07,200
got on because it's really happening

1711
01:07:11,109 --> 01:07:09,200
right now is that because of what's

1712
01:07:12,710 --> 01:07:11,119
going on in ukraine i thought tim

1713
01:07:14,950 --> 01:07:12,720
mcmillan who i work with at the

1714
01:07:17,190 --> 01:07:14,960
debriefing and you work with uh put an

1715
01:07:18,470 --> 01:07:17,200
interesting tweet out this morning and

1716
01:07:21,190 --> 01:07:18,480
he said well

1717
01:07:24,630 --> 01:07:21,200
i guess we know now that the

1718
01:07:28,630 --> 01:07:24,640
the uh uaps that have hovering around

1719
01:07:31,430 --> 01:07:28,640
our military are not russian because uh

1720
01:07:34,470 --> 01:07:31,440
if they had that technology uh they'd be

1721
01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:34,480
using it right they're in a live combat

1722
01:07:38,870 --> 01:07:37,200
situation that's not going that well for

1723
01:07:40,870 --> 01:07:38,880
them you know tim's been writing these

1724
01:07:43,270 --> 01:07:40,880
updates on the debrief with some pretty

1725
01:07:44,950 --> 01:07:43,280
neat inside information about what's

1726
01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:44,960
going on behind the scenes and what the

1727
01:07:49,270 --> 01:07:47,280
situation on the ground really is

1728
01:07:50,309 --> 01:07:49,280
and uh

1729
01:07:52,309 --> 01:07:50,319
you know

1730
01:07:54,470 --> 01:07:52,319
the areas that maybe russia made a lot

1731
01:07:57,109 --> 01:07:54,480
of miscalculations but i thought it was

1732
01:07:58,870 --> 01:07:57,119
just an interesting point that we've had

1733
01:08:00,390 --> 01:07:58,880
this list of

1734
01:08:02,870 --> 01:08:00,400
our uaps

1735
01:08:06,150 --> 01:08:02,880
american secret project

1736
01:08:07,829 --> 01:08:06,160
russian chinese or other right the other

1737
01:08:09,430 --> 01:08:07,839
was always the interesting one because

1738
01:08:11,029 --> 01:08:09,440
we always seem to be able to eliminate

1739
01:08:13,750 --> 01:08:11,039
the first three

1740
01:08:15,829 --> 01:08:13,760
well now i feel like we can fully

1741
01:08:17,829 --> 01:08:15,839
eliminate russia tim put that out and i

1742
01:08:19,189 --> 01:08:17,839
have like a thousand likes but i read

1743
01:08:21,669 --> 01:08:19,199
that this morning and i said he's

1744
01:08:24,070 --> 01:08:21,679
exactly right we're in a live combat

1745
01:08:26,550 --> 01:08:24,080
situation over there if russia had these

1746
01:08:27,990 --> 01:08:26,560
things they'd be used so uh

1747
01:08:29,749 --> 01:08:28,000
i just thought it was an interesting

1748
01:08:31,749 --> 01:08:29,759
piece of information he noted this

1749
01:08:33,590 --> 01:08:31,759
morning and yeah i wanted to use it as

1750
01:08:35,910 --> 01:08:33,600
an opportunity to promote the fact that

1751
01:08:37,669 --> 01:08:35,920
he's just doing amazing coverage over at

1752
01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:37,679
the debris so you want to want to hear

1753
01:08:41,990 --> 01:08:40,560
about like the story inside the story of

1754
01:08:43,430 --> 01:08:42,000
ukraine and what he's hearing from

1755
01:08:45,669 --> 01:08:43,440
intelligence people what he's hearing

1756
01:08:47,829 --> 01:08:45,679
from military people and kind of like

1757
01:08:50,630 --> 01:08:47,839
the stuff he's sharing with us

1758
01:08:52,950 --> 01:08:50,640
it's really cool so uh yeah what one

1759
01:08:55,110 --> 01:08:52,960
thing for sure it seems those uh what

1760
01:08:58,070 --> 01:08:55,120
ryan graves and these other navy pilots

1761
01:09:00,390 --> 01:08:58,080
we're seeing uh harassing their carrier

1762
01:09:02,630 --> 01:09:00,400
groups are not russian

1763
01:09:08,950 --> 01:09:02,640
yeah let's hope so man and let's hope

1764
01:09:13,829 --> 01:09:11,269
kick them off the list of the whoever's

1765
01:09:15,829 --> 01:09:13,839
behind the uap so uh i thought that was

1766
01:09:19,030 --> 01:09:15,839
an interesting development as we would

1767
01:09:21,669 --> 01:09:19,040
say yep the mystery remains i love it

1768
01:09:23,269 --> 01:09:21,679
well hey man of course before we go i

1769
01:09:25,590 --> 01:09:23,279
have to ask you know besides your

1770
01:09:28,149 --> 01:09:25,600
twitter handle there on the screen where

1771
01:09:30,630 --> 01:09:28,159
can we find everything you're up to

1772
01:09:32,950 --> 01:09:30,640
uh so the the best place obviously just

1773
01:09:34,950 --> 01:09:32,960
keep going to thedebris.org

1774
01:09:36,789 --> 01:09:34,960
i do anywhere from eight to fifteen

1775
01:09:39,990 --> 01:09:36,799
stories a week just depending on what

1776
01:09:41,510 --> 01:09:40,000
i'm covering what we're covering um i i

1777
01:09:43,669 --> 01:09:41,520
know people have been

1778
01:09:45,749 --> 01:09:43,679
private messaging me about some stories

1779
01:09:48,149 --> 01:09:45,759
i've teased in the past and yes nothing

1780
01:09:50,630 --> 01:09:48,159
has disappeared things are still coming

1781
01:09:51,749 --> 01:09:50,640
we're working on some really neat stuff

1782
01:09:54,470 --> 01:09:51,759
uh

1783
01:09:56,790 --> 01:09:54,480
i can tell people that 2022 i just feel

1784
01:09:58,550 --> 01:09:56,800
like that the balance of this year has

1785
01:10:00,550 --> 01:09:58,560
some pretty interesting rebels uh

1786
01:10:02,630 --> 01:10:00,560
revelations on tap

1787
01:10:05,270 --> 01:10:02,640
and uh if you want to read my writing

1788
01:10:07,350 --> 01:10:05,280
about science technology any of these

1789
01:10:09,430 --> 01:10:07,360
cutting edge things every day at the

1790
01:10:12,229 --> 01:10:09,440
debrief you can follow me there on

1791
01:10:13,669 --> 01:10:12,239
twitter uh i do have my own website but

1792
01:10:15,590 --> 01:10:13,679
i don't do much on it if you're somebody

1793
01:10:17,270 --> 01:10:15,600
who reads fantasy novels or if you want

1794
01:10:19,590 --> 01:10:17,280
to read my science fiction novel when it

1795
01:10:20,430 --> 01:10:19,600
comes out later this year that website

1796
01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:20,440
is

1797
01:10:23,110 --> 01:10:22,320
plainfiction.com just like you're seeing

1798
01:10:32,470 --> 01:10:23,120
my

1799
01:10:34,390 --> 01:10:32,480
book is up there for 99 cents right now

1800
01:10:36,950 --> 01:10:34,400
so uh knock yourself

1801
01:10:38,950 --> 01:10:36,960
what a steal you are a renaissance man

1802
01:10:41,030 --> 01:10:38,960
through and through so chris of course

1803
01:10:43,030 --> 01:10:41,040
my man thank you so much again for

1804
01:10:50,940 --> 01:10:43,040
joining me on somewhere in the skies

1805
01:11:25,670 --> 01:11:23,980
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